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Akita/Pit Pups

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IrishTwinsx2plus1 1
Dirty Sanchez 5
KillaK 1
shizzlemydizzle 2
GardenWitch 1
Maleficent 2
Clinical Depression 2
Leigh3212 10
AamburLee 7
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AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

Anybody have any Akita/Pitbull mix puppies for sale? Know anyone who does or has a littler coming? Please let me know! 

IrishTwinsx2plus1 --- 12 years ago -

Oh forget it 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

Forger what? 

Clinical Depression --- 12 years ago -

No % pit mix are allowed on base and you said you're moving onto base next month. Granted, you can "sneak" the dog in, but if animal control gets ahold of the dog that pooch is gone. Also, if you fail to register your dog on base and it gets caught and found to be pit it's gone. 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

Didn't say it was for me lol. Looking for one for my neighbors I have now. And I actually have a question about that. I have seen DOZENS of pits and "wolf hybrids" all over base? Like in people's backyards and everything? What's up with that? 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

Also, what do they do if you have a mutt and no idea what's in him? 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

If you have a pit bull or wolf hybrid, they are not technically permitted. However, there is some leeway if they are grandfathered in if they pass the Canine Good Citizen (CGC) test. That being said, a wolf hybrid is easy to say that he is some sort of malamute or husky mix. As far as having the documentation as to what they are mixed with, most vets will go off what you say the dog is. Example, when we moved out here we had a Dutch Shepherd mix puppy (kinda like a German Shepherd). Our apartment didn't allow them, but we could get away with it because our Dr. say he was a Border Collie mix. That being said, if your dog bites or attacks anyone and they find out that you were dishonest on base, it is automatically going to be two strikes against you and the dog. 

KillaK --- 12 years ago -

You are allowed having pit mixes on base as long as they are less than 49% pit. I have a pit mix ON BASE, who sees the on base vet and was brought to the animal shelter on base so she could get registered and they were in love with her.

I'm pretty sure they may want to do a blood test to figure out the true percentage of pit, but they didn't for my little one. 

Clinical Depression --- 12 years ago -

"Families already in housing can keep their dogs until Sept. 30, 2012, but only if they receive a "good-dog" waiver." 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

Well we adopted a siberian husky today. What do I have to do to get him registered on base before we move in? 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

To get registered you need record of vaccines, and a high frequency microchip. It is recommended you spay or neuter. Registration is 30 days after acquiring animal or 30 days after moving onto camp Pendleton. You will also need the sponsors information. If it is a puppy less than 6 months, they will give you leeway with some of the vaccinations. 

Dirty Sanchez --- 12 years ago -

Call animal control on base and get the FACTS from them if you think it might be an issue with your dog being allowed on base. Policies change often so what was fact once may not be anymore.

Some of the info being passed along on here is wrong. All dogs that were grandfathered in are no longer grandfathered because the deadline has expired for them (September 30th, 2012).

The base animal control doesn't go by "my previous vet said my dog is "X" percent". They require a DNA test to prove it and that's out of your pocket It's around ($70-$85) depending on where you go get it done. They also require a high frequency micro-chip, so even if your dog has a standard chip to register on base the dog will need a 2nd (HF) one.

I'm not sure what the % of a banned breed is for the dog to be allowed on base (mine was 100% and grandfathered in at the time i went through the whole process). 49% seems high to me i don't remember the # being that close to 50%, but i could be wrong or the policy might have changed.

Also, if people are seeing "banned breeds" or questionable dogs you can always call animal control if you are so inclined to do so. They will either verify via the house # you provide them (if the dog is in a backyard or you know the house # the dog resides in), or they will come out and investigate the housing area if you give them a brief description of the dog in question. 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

Don't know how you got your dog registered, but not how mine was. All they required was me to tell them what they were...They can't make you pay for a DNA test. Likewise, it is against California law to enforce new rules to tenants that already have a set lease ( no matter if you are a military base or not). So if you did have a pit bull, rottweiler, and/or hybrid. I do know people that still have their pits legally. It is worthwhile to know what your rights are.... 

Dirty Sanchez --- 12 years ago -

As i said maybe the policy has changed, but after the initial banned breed announcement that was the policy if the dog appeared to have a mix of a banned breed they could and would require DNA testing (off the top of my head i know at least 6 people that had to go through that process with their dog) otherwise they would simply refuse the dog be allowed on base for failure to comply.

Camp Pendleton is on Federal land not State and Federal law supersedes State law. Good luck going into base housing if you live on Camp Pendleton and telling them they can't change your existing lease policy though. lol 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

Federal law on base? Yeah right. Because federal laws protect renter's rights...and that must be why we pay crv taxes on base, because of federal laws. Again, Lincoln housing has to follow the same rules as any other renting agency in California. Yes it would be hell to fight it, but it is a right that is available if you have lived on Camp Pendleton long enough. Same concept as if the housing you live in changed their policy to no pets. They can't force you to get rid of your pet if there was a policy stating you could have them on your lease. 

GardenWitch --- 12 years ago -

Initial lease on base is 6 months after that you are month to month....any lease written since 2009 has had the new restrictions, grandfather clauses etc. and bans on bully breeds spelled out. 

Dirty Sanchez --- 12 years ago -

^bingo^

Winner, winner, chicken dinner. 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

So I guess no one knows of any skits/pit pups then. Lol 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

If the lease has been active since 2009, why would they not enforce it until 2012? Point is moot, Ca says they can't do it, and if you wanted to fight it, you could 

Dirty Sanchez --- 12 years ago -

The point isn't moot you just don't get it.

When the instruction came out in 2009 you could no longer bring a banned breed animal on base as a new pet and get it registered through animal control from that point in time. If you already had a banned breed on base prior to the instruction you could get the dog grandfathered in by following and completing their requirements (CGC cert, no bite record..etc), but even if the dog got grandfathered in it still had to be off base by September 30th, 2012. The grandfathered part just gave you a stay of execution so you had time to either relocate the dog or move off base with it.

This wasn't a California specific thing this was military wide. It was enforced at inception, the grandfather dog part didn't take effect until 2012.

With your logic if/when the base decided to start charging residents for electricity you'll say you don't have to pay because when you moved in you didn't have to...lol. 

AamburLee --- 12 years ago -

They charge electricity?? Fuuuuuuuuuuu 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

I get the law and what my rights are. It isn't logic if there are laws in place to prevent the change of policy in a lease. If you are so delusional that you think Camp Pendleton isn't privy to state laws, you're wrong. Considering Lincoln is its own company, it has to follow through with all state and federal laws wherever it is. Camp Pendleton may change its laws, but it is an entirely different matter for the housing to do so. 

shizzlemydizzle --- 12 years ago -

You may want to bone up on tenant/landlord laws.

Once a lease expires, a landlord (in this case Lincoln) may change the terms of successive leases. It's up to the tenant if they agree or not.

There are many HOAs that ban specific breeds and their right to do so has been upheld in courts across the country. 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

With or without leasing changes, there will always be a way for people to get around it. Legally, it is possible to have any cat or dog (regardless of breed). There are rules in law to protect renter's including clauses that state if the tenant was allowed the animal for a period of time with the owner's consent, that they cannot force their change. Likewise, there are no laws as to what type of dog must be used as a therapy or service dog. So if someone with PTSD is on base and their dog is a pit, Rottweiler, or mixed then there is nothing they can do. Tenant are also covered by federal laws stating that if change of policy affects a relationship between animal and owner that have cohabitated for more than six months, the renter has a right to keep their animal if it will affect them or any member of their family in a negative manner. All of these are loopholes that can be used. And all of them are covered by precidence or by state/federal law 

shizzlemydizzle --- 12 years ago -

There are rules in law to protect renter's including clauses that state if the tenant was allowed the animal for a period of time with the owner's consent, that they cannot force their change

There are also ways for the landlord to get around the "laws" you speak of.

The landlord can non-renew a lease. Living on base is not a "right".

Lincoln can go to a no pet policy altogether, with the exception of a service animal.

Therapy animals are not covered under any law, state or federal. 

Maleficent --- 12 years ago -

They charge electricity?? Fuuuuuuuuuuu
LOL!

It's not bad. Honestly at first when our bills came we were going to pay like $100 because that's what we went over on out allowance but I became electricity Nazi in an instant and the subsequent bills have been under the max allowance. Granted it's only like $14 under so there isn't much wiggle room but it's under and we would owe nothing nonetheless. 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

Therapy dogs are covered by the same laws as disability dogs. They're is no specific difference between them as far as the government is concerned. A service dog is an dog that is trained to help any person with a disability, in which therapy dogs are included. 

Dirty Sanchez --- 12 years ago -

shizzle just give up she's one of those "always right" kind of people.

She said there is "leeway" with grandfathered dogs when there isn't, she suggests having your vet lie about the breed your dog is to get them in houses/apartments they aren't allowed in and now she's talking about ways to get "around" laws.

All she's proving is the kind of person she is and her lack of morals. 

Leigh3212 --- 12 years ago -

Lack of morals? At least I don't go around insulting people I don't know....and since when are loopholes illegal? I never said have your dr lie about your animal. My dog was a border collie/shepherd mix, so yes I had my vet put he was a collie mix. So way to judge someone who hasn't done anything wrong. I'm sure your moral aptitude is much better than mine "dirty Sanchez" 

Maleficent --- 12 years ago -

Why wouldn't you include Shepard? We can those. 

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