omg people! i am so tired of everyone blaming the violence of the world on video games, music, and t.v. this is complete bull crap. if you dont want them to see violence then dont let them watch, play or see it. but that is hard when it is in all the books of history. in away it is taught in school. it is in our history of the u.s....come one people this is stupid. it is like the columbine shooting all over again. they blamed Marlyn Manson for that one, because of his music. who and what are we going to blame for this now? trying say the person that did this had mental problems and that is why he did it. i have mental problems but that does NOT mean i am going to do what he did. all that means i am going to get the help that i need like i am doing now. tryin g to say it is the moms fault cause she took her son to a gun range and that it made it ok for him to shot the guns when he wanted. i know people that take there kids to the gun range to teach them gun safety. does that mean that everyone in the military is held responsible for their kids if the shoot someone cause they where raised around guns. lets say for example someone named Bob is a marine and he teaches his son Trevor gun safety at 12. but at 20 Trevor decided that because he is picked on for being smart he shots and college student that he knows for making fun of him. Is Bob to blame? 

I don't think that stuff drives someone to kill, but it gives them ideas of "murdering grandeur".

You also can't control what an adult watches as some of these killers were over the age of 18. If your child goes over to a friend's house and plays violent games/watches when it's forbidden in your home your child is not going to tell you.

In this shooting I think his psychosis is to blame. His mom teaching him isn't what caused him to do what he did, but I think if she knew he was this way for years she should NOT have started "preparing" him for the economic disaster. Even if he was my child I would never entrust him with weapons with his mental issues.

I hate how people leave it open-ended about how to proceed with people with mental illnesses short of saying they want anyone who's ever had a documented mental illness to be institutionalized. I understand the instability of someone with a serious mental illness, but "sane" people can commit just as heinous, maybe not as "grand" as mass murders, crimes as unstable people. 

I personally do believe that first-person shooting game repetition by someone with certain mental illnesses can increase their propensity for violence. Oftentimes the people capable of these sorts of acts have those mental illnesses. The question then becomes... would they have still been capable of that if they had not been exposed to first-person violence? Probably, but it doesn't hurt to limit exposure if you know your child suffers from certain types of mental illnesses.

IMO this isn't about guns or video games or any other external factor. This is about mental illness and how our country (doesn't) deal with it. 

We already know who to blame, his name is Adam and he shot himself after killing 26 other people. There is no need to punish law abiding citizens who own guns or may have some form of mental illness. Not every gun toting person is going to go on a shooting spree just like not every person who may have mental health issues is going to.

We can try to figure out WHY he did this, but the truth is we will NEVER know because he is dead and the person closest to him is dead. We will NEVER know 100% why he did what he did. 

I never said to blame people with mental health issues. I believe that parents who have children with certain mental health issues that cause them to be violent and dangerous should have more help than what often becomes a choice between charging them with a crime and sending them to jail, or trying to do it yourself.

The person to blame is Adam Lanza, I was simply replying to the dialogue started in the OP regarding exposure to violence. 

My comment was in general and not directed towards you. Sorry if it came across that way. 

What I don't understand is if you have a child who is prone to violence (according to what I read) WHY would you have a bunch of guns and take your child shooting? That to me is a serious error in judgment.

Many, many studies show that those exposed to violence through many avenues are more prone to be violent than those who have never been exposed to that type of stuff. *shrug* no it's not the fault of those items but letting your kids watch Texas Chainsaw Massacre and play some of these really bad video games may not be teaching them the best things. 

*ahem*

Do Guns kill people? 

I can't get passed the beginning. The over generalization of anything is really annoying and just discredits him and anyone else that does it. Just like not ever conservative wants to ban gay marriage, ban abortions and completely get rid of welfare programs, not all liberals want more gun control (in the sense that we read like banning assault rifles, limiting ammo purchase and making smaller mags.) or even completely ban guns.

Here is a much better article:

http://8minutesoffame.com/america-freedom-vs-freedom/ 

here is something i think everyone should watch and know why we are fight to get control on the guns. it is from The Voice and it has 26 reasons why we should not be fighting over should the guns stay or should they go. i am for the guns going away! the police and military should be the only ones with guns to protect us!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO64urOFNaY 

the police and military should be the only ones with guns to protect us!!

I completely disagree. If someone is going to come into my home and shoot at my family and me your dang right I'm gonna get mine and shoot right back. By the time the police got there something could already happen and we could all be dead. 

the police and military should be the only ones with guns to protect us!!

Yeah, because there are enough Military to protect EVERYONE, right?

Here's some cool info.;

- A 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, Miss., was halted by the school's vice principal after he retrieved the Colt .45 he kept in his truck.
- A 1998 middle school shooting ended when a man living next door heard gunfire and apprehended the shooter with his shotgun.
- A 2002 terrorist attack at an Israeli school was quickly stopped by an armed teacher and a school guard.
- A 2002 law school shooting in Grundy, Va., came to an abrupt conclusion when students carrying firearms confronted the shooter.
- A 2007 mall shooting in Ogden, Utah, ended when an armed off-duty police officer intervened.
- A 2009 workplace shooting in Houston, Texas, was halted by two coworkers who carried concealed handguns.
- A 2012 church shooting in Aurora, Colo., was stopped by a member of the congregation carrying a gun.
- At the recent mall shooting in Portland, Ore., the gunman took his own life minutes after being confronted by a shopper carrying a concealed weapon.

America needs to stop focusing so much on guns and instead focus on people. We need to better our Healthcare so successful evaluations and treatments of Mental Illnesses can be easily accessed. 

      

“To disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them...”

 George Mason quotes

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."George Washington

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."Richard Henry Lee


Man back when our countries leadership actually cared about its people 

Not only do I agree 100% with peoplebefunny, but I'd like to add that the importance of a well-armed militia was well known to our forefathers. There may come a day when we must rely on it once again. In the meantime, I support those who carry responsibly even though I choose not to myself. 

So take all the guns away. Lets pretend we do that, whose going to hand them in? Do you think the criminals will give theirs up? Because they do the right thing right? Criminals don't break laws? 

the police and military should be the only ones with guns to protect us!!

Yeah, because there are enough Military to protect EVERYONE, right?

Yes, let's give ALL guns to the government, nothing ever went wrong doing that. Assault-style rifles should be in the hands of "professionals" aka military and police, and banned regardless that criminals won't cough them up, but what if the government takes our guns away and not the criminal's guns? 

If someone is going to come into my home and shoot at my family and me your dang right I'm gonna get mine and shoot right back. By the time the police got there something could already happen and we could all be dead.

By the time you got to your gun and removed the safety, your family would be dead (that's if you store your gun loaded, which is something a RESPONSIBLE gunowner doesn't do - gun and ammo are stored separately...) 

Um Our pistols are stored loaded in a biometric safe that is bedside. It opens in seconds and is keyed to open by only mine and my husbands finger prints. So no we wouldn't be dead, and yes we are exceptionally responsible. You however area ignorant. 

gosh darn people all i was saying is that it would be better that way. [b]my mama always said that opinions are like ass holes. everyone has and they stink.[/b] and that was just that my opinion. i did not say it to piss anyone off. i am tired of people talking about how guns keep everyone safe. clearly they do not in the wrong hands. i am just stating how i feel. i have have 2 nephews and one is going to start school next year and i dont want a call from their mama to tell me has been shot because of some bastard got mad and decided to shot up his school. i have 2 nieces that are in school. one is 12 and the other is 6. the same as some the kids killed in ct. i was scared for them. i have no kids and yet here i am feeling like it was my family that was effected by this tragedy. and it was not. but yet seeing the pictures of these babies i see my 6 yr old niece and my 3 yr old nephew. so like i said it is my opinion. and the government is talking about having gun control. as far as mental health goes......if they are over 18 you can not make them get help. they have to make that choice for themselves. and that is all i have to say! 

Personally I think taking guns away is ignorant! It may be the farm in me but I feel like my family is safer with one in my home. Plus my heart would be broken if there was no more duck hunting! I do however feel there should be stricter gun laws. My oldest brother has a lot of mental health issues, thankfully he has now been put into a physicality but at one point was legally able to get a gun. The fact that a man like him could get a gun is nuts! I think people should be looked into a lot more before being able to get one. 

Sadly, nutcases will find a gun if they really want one. There are plenty of illegal ways.
Gun violence will never be stopped completely. If not guns it will be something else (the man who stabbed kids in China, OK city bombing, etc).
But my opinion as far as guns go is that there is NO reason for anyone to have assault/military style weapons. I beiev we should be allowed to have weapons but they is a big difference between hunting, home security, etc and a weapon that sends out 100's of rounds a minute.
Just my thought. 

Omg you are dumb. Full auto weapons have been banned to the general public for a long time unless they have a FFL. Semi auto weapons (which is a majority of the 300 million weapons owned). My pistol is more powerful than a bushmaster ar rifle yet completely ok just because it does not LOOK like a military weapon. Dumb 

I can't get passed the beginning. The over generalization of anything is really annoying and just discredits him and anyone else that does it.

It wasn't meant to be serious. It was meant to be humorous. 

Um Our pistols are stored loaded in a biometric safe that is bedside. It opens in seconds and is keyed to open by only mine and my husbands finger prints

Okay, you're in the living room, and someone comes busting in the door - you going to make it to the safe in time?

I think not, but if you like having a false sense of security, good on you. 

Oh bless your heart sweetie. 

shizzle there have been many stories of homeowners successfully protecting themselves with their firearms in home. If you dont want them in your home, dont have them. If you dont want your kid in a home with them, make sure they dont have them before you send them over. Otherwise, its not really your business what others do in their homes. 

I'm not against legal ownership of firearms - what.so.ever.

What I'm against is gun owners(or, from the posts here, SPOUSES of gun owners) having a false sense of security, believing they will be able to protect themselves in the event of a home invasion.

Unless you're carrying at all times, a weapon locked in ANY safe isn't going to do you much good. Likewise a weapon stored with a trigger lock.

It's kind of like that false sense of security so many spouses have about living on base vs. out in town.
;-) 

What I'm against is gun owners(or, from the posts here, SPOUSES of gun owners) having a false sense of security, believing they will be able to protect themselves in the event of a home invasion.

I am a spouse, however all three of MY guns are registered in MY name. My spouse has his OWN guns in his OWN name. It is not a false sense of security. I am not spouting how nothing bad could ever possibly to me or my own because we have guns and conceal carry. Having a gun lets me know that I have the ABILITY and the direct MEANS to defend myself and my own should the need ever arise. Now in no way am I saying that everyone thinks the same way, I am sure there are plenty out there who do get a false sense of security from guns. That, however, does not mean that every gun owner should be condemned because uneducated people think that we are ALL irresponsible. 

What I'm against is gun owners(or, from the posts here, SPOUSES of gun owners) having a false sense of security

Wrong. We both own our own firearms. And what does it matter who's name it is registered under? It still works the same. There is no false sense of security about it. 

well if you own your own gun or your husband owns the gun if it helps you feel safe and you keep it put up where your kids cant get to it or don't know where it is then more power to you. i know that everyone has there own opinion on this matter, but i did not start this for everyone to get mad or pissed at each other. i feel that no matter what the children should be kept safe. and i hope everyone can agree on that. if you cant agree that the children should be safe then go live in a damn hole some where.