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Dirty Ref, Youth Sports.

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Liz~*Celebrating Home *~ 1
Donny 3
Abra 1
Trace 7
WickedOne 1
blah blah blah 1
a3270849uu 1
shizzlemydizzle 3
GardenWitch 1
Liberal Scumbag 1

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Trace --- 6 years ago -

Has anyone else had issues with the thin filipino ref? Today at our game he red carded something he was yellow carding the other team for (he also yellow cards the kid that got red carded today at every game). I am going to ICE youth sports because they are doing nothing about this guy. He told a girl at the game today that she doesnt know how to play. He admitted to saying it but refused to say sorry. It's not even about them losing because they've lost with other refs with no problem. I've already told my daughter that if he is refing next season she wont be playing. It takes away from the fun of the game when they have a dirty ref who has already determined the game. The sideline judges didn't agree with the ref. After the game I overheard the MCCS worker who is head of the refs telling them that they need to "stick together". 

shizzlemydizzle --- 6 years ago -

What age group? 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

What age group?

U13 

shizzlemydizzle --- 6 years ago -

What does the coach say about the situation? 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

What does the coach say about the situation?

It's not pretty. They called over the head of youth sports. All they were asking was that he say sorry. The coaches arent happy about the situation. 

Donny --- 6 years ago -

We've had issues with refs this season too. Then again i've seen both parents and players get red carded/ejected from games that they should have been removed from for their antics so i take it all with a grain of salt.

It's a $35 recreational league and some players/parents take it way too seriously from what i see each week. These refs are under the gun from coaches, players, parents and youth sports all the time. I've yet to watch a game where my son's coach wasn't screaming at the refs about a bad call this season.

Our coach actually turns around to the parents and tells them if we want things fixed with the refs we need to call youth sports ourselves because there is nothing as a coach he can do because if he argues with the refs he gets ejected from the game and we lose our coach. (we don't have another coach or assistant so we'd have to forfeit if he gets ejected).

There are plenty of better run soccer organizations out in town so if people are having an issue with youth sports on base they can always go elsewhere. My son plays club soccer for the Breakers and for OHS he only plays on base to play with his friends that don't go to his HS or play out in town. 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

We've had issues with refs this season too. Then again i've seen both parents and players get red carded/ejected from games that they should have been removed from for their antics so i take it all with a grain of salt.

It's a $35 recreational league and some players/parents take it way too seriously from what i see each week. These refs are under the gun from coaches, players, parents and youth sports all the time. I've yet to watch a game where my son's coach wasn't screaming at the refs about a bad call this season.

Our coach actually turns around to the parents and tells them if we want things fixed with the refs we need to call youth sports ourselves because there is nothing as a coach he can do because if he argues with the refs he gets ejected from the game and we lose our coach. (we don't have another coach or assistant so we'd have to forfeit if he gets ejected).

There are plenty of better run soccer organizations out in town so if people are having an issue with youth sports on base they can always go elsewhere. My son plays club soccer for the Breakers and for OHS he only plays on base to play with his friends that don't go to his HS or play out in town.


And I understand this. The problem is he verbally abused a child. I don't go in expecting my daughter to win, or be the next world cup winner. She's supposed to have fun. This man takes away from that. It's not that he's calling fair calls. We've had many other refs call the games with no problem. I did contact youth sports and I also iced them.

ETA: she played last season with youth sports and we didn't have this issue at all and not once did a player or parent get ejected. 

shizzlemydizzle --- 6 years ago -

U13 is a more competitive group. If it was the younger groups, then yeah, I'd say the ref is ruining the "fun" of the game.

But, at this age, you better get used to the bad calls and poor attitude of both refs AND coaches.

Just wait until she starts playing school ball... 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

My daughter was a competitive dancer, has played sports all her life nd my husband has played soccer or coached all his life. This is the worst we've ever seen. 

WickedOne --- 6 years ago -

U13 is still recreational through youth sports, so this type of behavior is unacceptable. We have had several issues with the ref's carding some players and not others when their offense was significantly worse. Several parents have stated they filled out an ICE complaint, but it seems as though nothing is being done about it. Rules in force by youth sports are continuously being broken and no one takes any accountability. 

Donny --- 6 years ago -

Regardless of the age group base soccer is a recreational league. It gives the kids some exercise and teaches them the basics of soccer.

Competitive soccer is club, HS, college...etc.

For $35 rec soccer on base is a great deal. You get a jersey, refs, soccer balls and decent fields for the kids to play on, go look at prices out in town for the same thing.

It's like anything else you get what you pay for. These aren't profesional refs these guys went to a quick clinic to learn the basics so they can ref a game and make next to nothing some of them are even volunteers. There will be bad calls it is what it is. 

blah blah blah --- 6 years ago -

Its just kids sports. Not that serious. He told a girl she doesn't know how to play maybe she doesn't. The problem with sorts is the parents they cant let their child play for fun they have to be so dang competitive. 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

You would be raising hell if someone said your child couldn't do something. And for the record she's a very good player. She was going in to score when the ref made this comment. 

Trace --- 6 years ago -

For the record the child is question isn't
Mine. 

Liz~*Celebrating Home *~ --- 6 years ago -

No adult or even child should be told they are no good. I don't get how you think that is ok Blah Blah Blah. That is a ridicules statement. I hope something gets done bc kids and parents should be having fun with this and not feel belittled by other people. 

GardenWitch --- 6 years ago -

What he said was inappropriate for any age. However it's not MCCS the coaches should be complaining to, it's whatever group MCCS contracted with for referees that a complaint needs to be filed with.

Most refs work for more than one group as well. This guy could be refereeing all over San Diego, not just base. 

Donny --- 6 years ago -

Most refs work for more than one group as well. This guy could be refereeing all over San Diego, not just base. 

yep and most do. The OHS Freshman coach refs on base and out in town and he coaches the Oceanside Breakers club soccer team and obviously at the HS as well. He scouts talent on base while he refs and speaks with parents of kids after the games that he thinks woud make good additions to the Breakers team or HS. 

Abra --- 6 years ago -

$35, $100 or $0 registration fee, they signed up for the "job", if he's not doing it properly, he SHOULD be reported. 

a3270849uu --- 6 years ago -

Trace, I was there today, too. And, the referee was ridiculous. He made bad calls during the last game that he refereed for us. In today's game, the two kids kicked the ball at the same time and both fell. That was the first time that I have ever seen a red card given for that. And, the comment that he made to the player was terrible. He made her cry. His boss, and the soccer director, came to watch him during the last few minutes of the game. So, I hope that won't happen again. 

Liberal Scumbag --- 6 years ago -

I haven't seen a ref yet, in the games this season, that made consistent, sensible calls. And that's not sour grapes...my kids' team has the highest total points scored for the season. LOL!

Today, a girl on the opposing team crashed into one of the boys on our team...her elbow to his lips. Not a purposely thrown elbow, but an injury that should have stopped play, nonetheless. Our player stopped running and stood holding his face. Ref saw it, allowed play to continue for another minute, and then stopped play when the girl stopped and held her elbow. He approached HER and asked if she was ok. Never checked on our player, who was still standing there, holding his FACE.

He gave a point to the opposing team when the ball did not cross the goal line. He failed to call the other team on a LOT of shoving and flying arms / elbows.

I just tell my kids if you're going to play sports, you're going to have to deal with crummy calls and unsportsmanlike opponents. It's not fair, but life seldom is. Even when my kids' team loses, like today, we walk off the field with smiles on our faces because they know their team played a heck of a game, and grumbling about it after the fact doesn't change the outcome. 

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