While its "no different than living out in town", BAH covers the house/"free reign" over utilities. People in concession communities get away with "more" bc they get to pay less. Wonder how it'll work in those communities. Quick! Use a LoT of energy to raise the average.
I wouldn't have moved on base if i had to pay utilities, I moved on base because when all said and done I paid the same off base with utilities as I do on base without. I would have stayed in my old place. luckily we conserve and shouldn't have much to worry about, but still sucks
It isn't hard to conserve energy with two people, the problem is the idea: pay ALL BAH and still be charged for utilities based on an average. The idea behind living on base: BAH equals rent AND "free reign" of utilities.
Living out in town doesn't cost all BAH therefore leaving a lot leftover for utilities, which is essentially like living in the concession districts.
I don't know who owns pendleton housing, but I'd check their website. They had meters put in at cherry point last year, and the amcc website has a notification of this change happening, and I read something on the website for lejeune too.
I thinks its fair. There are so many people who are careless with their utilities more so since its not them haveing yo pay. Its very costly for the one who pays it. I believe you have it made living on base. The quality living is a bit nicer for most on base. Compared to what your Bah will cover out in town without haveing your " extra/leftovers" BAH in gas. If any one thinks its unfair and they can live cheaper out in town then do so. Once you start getting. Your water bill, electric, gas, and gas for your car for the longer commute and so on. Then the sence of entitlement may turn into greatfulness.
It shouldn't be that big of a deal to pay utilities. No where off base would you find a 3 or 4 or bedroom house for under $2000 a month and even then its plus utilities. I lived in a condo, there for a two bedroom it was $1900 + $200 or so in utilities. Sigh. Stop the complaining people. At least your husband or wife has a guaranteed job, a paycheck and you have health care.
I'm not concerned with the charges, we conserve but that's not the point. And Mandy its not a sense of entitlement. It's the point that most people live on base because everything is included and you don't have to worry about water, electricity, and trash. I have looked around and we can find something cheaper off base even after paying electronic and all that. But we still prefer to live on base. To say people have it hard living out in town is outrageous, they chose to live out in town. They can live on base if they want but they don't.
I think you miss undersold or I just didn't make it too clear. I didn't say living town is outrageous by any means as I own my own home as well as have lived in base houseing for many years. I was just reminding some of the differences. But the entitlement comes to play when people start complaining or thinking its not fair when their privileges (as in this case free utilities) are being changed, removed or affected in any way. If people didn't feel enttitled they wouldn't have ANY problem with it since they kwow it is a privilege and not a right that is changeling. Buy any means I am not being snarky I was just stateing my opinion.
Sounds smart to me, it's never good for people to be able to abuse utilities especially when power and water is becoming so much more precious in many parts of the country.
The people in 29 Palms are screwed.
It is based on averages, the only people who will find any problem with this are those who are using way more than all their neighbors are (medical needs aside). Those who conserve will find a reward in that. Sounds like a win-win to me! Teach the over-users to be more responsible and reward those who are responsible.