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Forcing me to take my FLAGS down!

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Barbie --- 2 years ago -

Sorry, but I just saw the "patriotic display".

All I gotta say is, Really?

You weren't flying the American flag, you had 2 cheapo flags that are handed out at parades and your MOTO flag draped across the balcony.

You made a big deal over THAT???


She wants her 15 seconds of fame!!! If it involves a childish matter then so be it! 

Barbie --- 2 years ago -

Personally I think it was pretty childish, and just because you say your husbands command agreed with it doesn't mean it wont effect his career. Think of how many people are going to be watching you make a mock of not only yourself but your husband on tv....would you go to the fool who went on tv for something as childish as a flag? I personally wouldn't. I want to trust the man who's about to help me take one of the biggest steps in my life to be a man of confidence and professional, not someone trying to get attention on tv. 

sweetcheeks --- 2 years ago -

Yeah!!! Old PU nostalgia 

nessaTEX --- 2 years ago -

You were dumb for doing this 

BellaLaVie --- 2 years ago -

News even said in the lease it says no draping stuff from the balconies but you took that as laundry...not flags... 

ooorah69P --- 2 years ago -

Yeah!!! Old PU nostalgia

x2 Just like the old days! 

HarlequinSoul --- 2 years ago -

I agree... Your patriotic display could have been done in better taste. Your apartment looks like a frat house. to pick this battle was to ask for trouble.

Also, I think you'll find that not many military wives here, including myself, will appreciate being told that if they don't fly a gawdy flag then they are not being 100% supportive of their spouse or the military.

Some of us don't need to beg for the attention of others by shouting to the rest of the world that our spouse fights for their freedoms. Some of us are simply content to know that our spouses make a difference in the world and that they are home safe. 

YouReallyThinkSo --- 2 years ago -

As much as Im for patriotism if its against your lease, its against your lease. You want to be able to fly flags on your balcony move but this time read your whole lease. The owner of the property has the right to say what he or she wants on there property as long as its in your lease. If they dont let her know she is breaking the rules and do something about it they are showing favoritism. Yeah our military fights for freedom, which gives the owner his rights to say what can and cant take place on his or her property.
Personally I think the news looks just as stupid as the OP for doing the story. 

Poe --- 2 years ago -

Its not hard to follow the rules in a lease, they should evict you for not following the lease IMO. By contacting media and posting the link here I think you're just looking for attention. They haven't takin any rights from you, you signed a lease and agreed to follow their rules. 

ukfan --- 2 years ago -

The OP is a moron, first of all it doesn't even seem like the flag is flown properly. It's hung from a balcony for goodness sakes! If you really think what your are doing is ok then why are you going to a forum asking if you were right? If your gonna go on the news about it and look like an idiot then own it! 

Its Secret --- 2 years ago -

So sad. Sure it's in the lease, but it's the American Flag for goodness sake. Just as someone has the right to burn our flag, or hang the Mexican Flag, we all should have the right to hang our country's flag wherever we want. Just recently there was a huge story about a man who fought in a war being told de couldn't have his flag pole in the middle of his front yard. He fought it too and won. It's hard for me to wrap my brain around the comment- it's just material. 

ooorah69P --- 2 years ago -

On the other hand, the complex owner has the right to say what flag if any, is allowed to be flown/hung on their property. 

Its Secret --- 2 years ago -

I'm honestly surprised you made that comment since you were in the military. Not that you don't have a valid point because you do. But I guess I consider the A.F. Different then just any old flag. 

YouReallyThinkSo --- 2 years ago -

Exactly. Its in the lease. The lease they signed and agreed to in terms. They are breaking a contract. How honorable of them.
Yes, and ok say they say ok its the American flag we will let it slide. Than someone post a Mexican flag, a Iranian Flag, or a Confederate flag they cant tell them to take theres down and not tell the person with the American flag. I can see why the owner has the rules they do, they are trying to keep a clean look. They own the property, they have that right. 

ooorah69P --- 2 years ago -

I didn't say i agreed with the complex owner ;) But the owner does have that right.

I think the owner may be doing that to prevent people hanging any old flag or banner, besides the National Ensign.

So they just banned them all in the lease. 

puppylove --- 2 years ago -

I think it's silly to go to the media. I would have just hung my flags inside in my windows. You don't know how this is going to effect his career, you don't know how his command is going to look at him. They have been joking when they said for you to go to the media.

Oh and you are still living in that apartment so it could make your manager mad, and then they could in turn make living there horrible. 

Its Secret --- 2 years ago -

Why would it "affect" his career? Didn't she already go to his command to ask how to handle it? I would think they would support him wanting to fly it. 

Its Secret --- 2 years ago -

Good to know Back. I will make sure to let my husband know the flag draping is out :) 

YouReallyThinkSo --- 2 years ago -

No it wouldn't affect his career.
He's a recruiter, its going to affect his career. People are going to take what his wife did and see it as her husband did it to. His command might of said ok, but once the media is involved someone higher than his command or higher than the person who said it was ok might not like what she does and hold him responsible. 

Its Secret --- 2 years ago -

I would think they would be proud he was standing up for his right to fly a symbol of our country that he protects everyday. But I don't know for sure- I guess I don't understand what they have to be mad about? 

nessaTEX --- 2 years ago -

I think the owner may be doing that to prevent people hanging any old flag or banner, besides the National Ensign.

It's not just flags. It's for laundry, or, anything else you can think to drape over the railing and makes the complex look tacky. My old apartment gave our neighbors warnings when they had their beach towels out to dry over the railing. The rules are there for a reason. If you don't like it then move after your lease to a house or somewhere that allows it. 

peoplebefunny --- 2 years ago -

http://fox4kc.com/2012/04/10/family-told-to-remove-flags-from-balcony/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wdaf-news+%28FOX4KC+Local+News%29

LOL. That news station must be hard up for stories, I can't believe they actually covered this. 

Champ --- 2 years ago -

I could see fighting it, if it wasn't an eye sore, but I guess I don't see the elegance in the way you have the flags hanging. I mentally pictured something completely different than what I saw.

PS- I love the American Flag, and have a great appreciation for the Marine Corps flag, and have been bugging my husband for a flag pole, but honestly I would naver display them quite so "tacky". Maybe for a memorial day/ 4th of july/ homecoming, but beyond that, no.- it really doesn't look good. 

Calimommy --- 2 years ago -

Not sure if this is off subject. But I know there is a traditional way to hang a Marine and American flag, or proper way. I heard each state has a certain way they think a flag should be hung for respect. Like the American goes on one side and the Marine goes on the other. I also heard on the left side of garage in a proper holder. I can see if it was hung on the door with proper flag pole and looked nice. But that doesn't look nice :0( But on the other hand if you feel in your heart it's not right than go for it. But I would not want my neighbors house to look like yours, I have a Marine flag in front of my garage on pole and I have such respect for it. 

shizzlemydizzle --- 2 years ago -

Its Secret,

You might want to take a peek at the "patriotic display" before actually standing up for the OP.

She had two American flags that look like the ones they hand out at parades standing upright on the railing and then, what looks like a 2 x 4 or 3 x 5 Semper Fi flag attached to the railing, in between the two cheapo flags.

I don't care how patriotic someone is, I can't see them justifying her going to the media over this one. 

CharlieWhiskey2 --- 2 years ago -

I mentally pictured something completely different than what I saw.

I defend the right to raise the American flag and I believe it's a way to show my pride and love for this country. I believe my husband being in the USMC has the right to also raise the USMC flag.
I do not think posting it on your balcony with two of the dollar store American flags is something media worthy. I would fight but I don't think I'd go to the media. I would ask the owner if I could put up actual flag poles. 

Cellulite City --- 2 years ago -

I agree... Your patriotic display could have been done in better taste. Your apartment looks like a frat house. to pick this battle was to ask for trouble.

Also, I think you'll find that not many military wives here, including myself, will appreciate being told that if they don't fly a gawdy flag then they are not being 100% supportive of their spouse or the military.

Some of us don't need to beg for the attention of others by shouting to the rest of the world that our spouse fights for their freedoms. Some of us are simply content to know that our spouses make a difference in the world and that they are home safe.


I concur. 

Priv82 --- 2 years ago -

I've seen people get kicked out of their homes for this. They did violate their home owners association agreement. On one hand, I think everyone should be able to fly their flag and show their pride. But at the same time, I think everyone should also follow the rules they agreed to follow. So if it is in the lease about what you are allowed to display etc etc, then yeah, you are wrong. Take it down. They do these things for a reason. Sure everyone wants to get all up in arms bc their American flag cannot be flown....but, let someone want to fly some other flag and people want it taken down. Like someone else said...if everyone started to get to fly all their crap, it would start to look like a craphole. They make these rules in order to keep the neighborhood and exteriors looking uniformed and neat. If people really want to do what they want to do, then they would make sure to move somewhere that it is possible. I know I do not want anyone to tell me what type of fence I can have or what color I can paint my house. So I bought land that was not in a subdivison. It is all about choices. I know if I did not want to see someone paint their house blue or put up a trashy chain link fence, then I would probably buy IN a subdivision. It is all about choices. 

Jillianfaith13 --- 1 years ago -

I know this was posted a while ago, but I decided I would chime in. I was in the military for nearly 9 years and this sorta stuff really bothers me alot! Please refer to this website it can be very useful!

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/more/hr42.htm

It reviews the "Freedom to Display American Flag Act of 2005"... For me, a CONDO OWNER, the HOA has tried the same thing, but thru this act I am 100% legally covered and they can kiss my American @$$! As far as being a renter... you have "a right to exclusive possession or use" of your unit correct?

It would be somewhat difficult, HOWEVER, I believe in a court of law it would hold up for a renter as well. I am no lawyer, law is tricky, but at least you have the right one to reference now :) After reading this I feel like heading out and buying me a flag, a light to illuminate it and hanging it tomorrow. Watch my HOA try and say something... :-) 

shizzlemydizzle --- 1 years ago -

Your link doesn't apply in this situation.

It wasn't an American flag being displayed. It was a large Semper Fi flag hung on the outside of the balcony railing, which is not part of the unit. 

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