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So what do you think???

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sbve --- 1 years ago -

What about mandatory auto insurance?? I don't see people talking about that... Everyone HAS to have it, you can't even get a base sticker without proof of insurance. What's the big deal with having to have a health insurance? So the government can force you to secure your car but not yourself? Having to have health insurance limits your freedom to choose but having to have car insurance doesn't? 

MrsMacho --- 1 years ago -

You don't HAVE TO have a car. That's ONE. TWO, if your car dies or craps out on you, you can REPLACE it with a new one/new part. If you can afford a car, you can afford to fix it and put gas in it, etc. And yeah, having a car is a luxury that most of us need, but it's not forced upon us. You could walk, take a bus, have a friend pick you up, etc. Comparing auto insurance to health insurance is just lame. 

BlueBettas --- 1 years ago -

Lots of people don't have car insurance, and no one knows they are driving without it until they get caught. I had a friend who drove without insurance for years. It wasn't until he was rear-ended by a city bus at a red light that it was discovered he didn't have car insurance. In the end he was found at fault because he had no insurance, and lost his license for 2 years.
During the time he was without insurance, no one knew. In Oregon car registration (which getting it registered was the only time he had it insured) can last from 2-5 years depending on the age of the car. Aside from needing it to get new registration stickers, he didn't bother with insurance because he couldn't afford it.

So yes, you are supposed to have car insurance, but you aren't penalized for not having it until you get caught. With not having the health insurance it sounds like you will have to pay a fee annually for not having it. 

GardenWitch --- 1 years ago -

free health care for all children would be a good idea


Georgia has something called Peach care for kids, it works just fine. If every state would have stepped up and done something, the feds wouldn't have to.

Money talks people, if you pay taxes, figure out a way to reduce it or eliminate it. I hear Costa Rica loves American retirees so much it doesn't tax their retirement income ;-) 

sweetcheeks --- 1 years ago -

YouReallyThinkSo --- 10 hours ago - quote - flag comment - hide comments
To me its one step closer to loosing our rights as Americans. Not even going into particulars about Obama Care. The government should not have the choice to say who lives or dies, who can get what treatment and who cant. Way to much power. 

U asked what people think...that's my 2cents. We lost rights a long time ago lol 

YouReallyThinkSo --- 1 years ago -

In California if you don't pay your insurance premium the DMV is notified right away and they suspend your registration. Not that auto insurance is anywhere near close to the same as health insurance. And in California they have medical. The income limit is pretty high to qualify if you have children. 

sweetcheeks --- 1 years ago -

Don't have a job: get free healthcare.

We shouldn't be forced to buy a "product" that we don't want to, and we shouldn't be forced to be taxed to those who refuse to work and government assistance is their career. If we're forced to be taxed to pay for the poor/people who make poor health choices then we should decide how people should live their lives. Obesity, smoking, and the diseases and disorders brought upon by unhealthy lifestyles are the biggest
healthcare expenses in this country.

Yeah suppose u get cancer tomorrow & have no health care...how great of care dO u think u will get lol??? The bottom Of the barrel my friend. Not all people get cancer because of their choices. 

HarlequinSoul --- 1 years ago -

""Health care should be a human right

Care to explain why?

Have healthcare: pay low tax.
Don't have healthcare: pay high tax.
Don't have a job: get free healthcare.

We shouldn't be forced to buy a "product" that we don't want to, and we shouldn't be forced to be taxed to those who refuse to work and government assistance is their career. If we're forced to be taxed to pay for the poor/people who make poor health choices then we should decide how people should live their lives. Obesity, smoking, and the diseases and disorders brought upon by unhealthy lifestyles are the biggest healthcare expenses in this country.

Romney 2012. ""


Did you even know who Romney was or what he stood for before he was running for the Presidency...?

He championed MA state's universal healthcare. They still have universal healthcare and it still works for them... Also, the MA healthcare system is exactly what Obamacare is based on. So basically Romney created universal healthcare, but then when the rest of the US public was not in favor, he decided he would completely change his views and morals.

Honestly, I wouldn't want a man with such flimsy resolve running any part of a government. I wouldn't want him running a McDonald's.

And furthermore, I happen not to support obamacare, as the idea behind it is sound and righteous, but the fashion in which they wish to implement it is flawed.

And before anyone calls me out as a self loathing liberal, let me say that I cannot even classify myself as either republican or democrat, because our country is neither a democracy nor a republic any longer. Partisan animosity has ruined our governmental system. As did President Bush when he eliminated many of our constitutional rights with the Patriot act and by also taking it upon himself to declare partial exemption from the Geneva Convention for GitMo prisoners, some of whom were American Citizens. It's a travesty that Bush was never tried for war crimes by the UN. But then, the media are wonderful poetic liars, and they are in the pocket of whomever has the biggest dollar bill.

I love my country, but I fear she is terminally ill and I weep for these United States. Our current corrupt system of government is a cancer that eats away slowly at everything the Founding Fathers stood for and if they were alive today, they would revolt. And their words would be stymied, and their sanity questioned in order to maintain the current regime. But they would encourage the people to rise up against tyranny, and to stand proudly as Americans to defend their rights. The worst terrorism we all face every day is from our own government. We are forced into submission and complacency. And we simply sit by and watch as our constitutional rights are stripped one bill at a time, and Presidential veto powers can no longer be challenged.

I don't care what political party the president comes from, anyone given that much power will become corrupt. Really, it has nothing to do with political views and morals anymore, it only has to do with money and power. Political issues are only tools used to appeal to the public in order to get elected.

Our country's government is a cocky adolescent, who feels indestructible, and who refuses to admit wrongdoing. But our country's people are the bullied who hide behind the bully. We stand there and allow the destruction of our rights and our morals.

Apathy facilitates war, death and destruction. 

HarlequinSoul --- 1 years ago -

... Sorry that was so long... But when you start a topic about politics lol... 

nesxoxo --- 1 years ago -

... Sorry that was so long... But when you start a topic about politics lol...
I like when unbiased opinions (and some facts) come into the conversation. I enjoyed yours, and it hit the nail on the head. I am neither party because I feel either way it just doesn't matter. This government is far to corrupt for me to care anymore. 

chelleydi77 --- 1 years ago -

Harlequin, I think I love you! Well said!!! 

HarlequinSoul --- 1 years ago -

well thanks y'all for the input! I try very hard to remain objective when it comes to my political views, but I guess I had been bottling that up for a while... I sometimes feel like I can't express my political views (and thus, exercise my right to free speech) for fear it will come back to bite my husband. But here, it's anonymous, so I apparently needed to get that out! =} 

HarlequinSoul --- 1 years ago -

It just tears me up inside to think about these issues too long. And that is where the complacency sets in. I am guilty of that most certainly; it's a coping mechanism. However it's time to speak out and it's time to stand for what we believe in. I am choosing to start today.

I could go on and on about how much Bush took from our civil liberties. He actually put Presidential veto power above the powers of congress, and thus ever since, the system of checks and balances has been null and void. It doesn't exist in our government today. They still teach it in our schools,(which are socialized, and run by the government, and THAT'S going GREAT!) but it's no longer there in our country. Because, the thing about power and civil liberties, is that once they are allowed to be taken, you're not going to get them back without a fight. It's like sand running through your fingers. By the time you realize it has happened, and no matter how much you grab for it, it still slips away. No President will ever give the power of checks and balances back to congress, and no congress will give back power to the people. You must take it like our forefathers did, like the government did from us.

Yeah, I really really could go on for hours, but I won't because I don't like being such an angry cynic all the time. =P

...................................

"A Patriot must always be ready to defend its country against its government."

-Edward Abbey 

BlueBettas --- 1 years ago -

I came across this quote, and found it amusing...

"If Obama can force you to get health insurance just by calling it a tax, than there is nothing to stop him from making you gay marry an illegal immigrant wearing a condom on a hydroponic pot farm powered by solar energy." -- Stephen Colbert 

HarlequinSoul --- 1 years ago -

Also, I'm very sorry I can't shut up, but I would like to point out that this problem is not unique to the USA. Britain, Germany, China, and other super powers in the world today also deal with corruption, socialism, and oppression of their people. So, in no way should Americans be so arrogant as to think that they are the only ones suffering these injustices by their own governments, however, neither should Americans forget to look at, analyze and learn from other countries, and other instances from current events and the past. 

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